GAME: Guess that car! [Archive] - Page 24 (2024)

puff4

25th June 2011, 00:12

OK, so I guess it's my turn, given two consecutive 'wins'.

Here's a picture of my son, doing his best impression of "Reservoir Dogs", next to a car from my collection which I still drive regularly.

BTW, the car has not been restored... it's been driven since new, with only regular maintenance and an engine rebuild along the way. No rust, it runs beautifully, and rides like you're on a cloud. Just don't try to go fast.

(Oh, and sorry, but I had to 'fuzzy' out the emblems or it would be *way* too easy to guess.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/procolharum/DSCN0422XX.jpg

Bonus points for telling us why this model of car is special... hint: it was the first model that an important device was installed on... what was that device?

bwob

25th June 2011, 01:35

Triumph Renown.

Wasn't it the first British car with synchromesh on all gears?

bwob

puff4

25th June 2011, 01:45

Correct car... Triumph Renown... now what MODEL of Renown? :) There were 3 versions.

And no, that's not the distinction... but you're close... it has to do with that area of the car.

aussieeemex

25th June 2011, 04:14

puff4

25th June 2011, 15:00

All Triumph Renowns were designated as Triumph 2000's... indeed, the name Renown was added later in production. But like many other cars there were 'mark' types. In Triumph cars they usually began with "T"... so 20TR2 was a Triumph TR2. So... there were three mark types for Renowns... Wiki lists them... the question is which is this one?

And no, Lockheed brakes were not first implemented on this car, though it does indeed have Lockheed brakes. BWOB was really close when he was talking about transmission features.

'lilRedRide

25th June 2011, 23:16

Mk 1 TBD.

Overdrive baby!!!!

bwob

26th June 2011, 00:17

Ah yes, the dreaded Layco*ck de Normanville electric overdrive system.

The angle is so shallow, but is the car a long wheelbase TDB (the 'limousine') or a TDC?

bwob

'lilRedRide

26th June 2011, 00:50

He said 'first model' so that would be the TBD, sir...

http://smileyshack.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/sbowing_100-102.gif

:p

Here's an easy one to see who is paying attention.

aussieeemex

26th June 2011, 03:25

bwob

26th June 2011, 05:39

The Triumph 1800 (1946~48) predated the Renown with the TDA (marketed as the Triumph 2000) introduced in 1949 alongside the Renown 1st series/Mark I, a.k.a. the TDB.

The long wheelbase one I was alluding to appeared with a division based on the TDB as the 'Limousine' and the wheelbase stretch was applied to all TDCs (which were also division-challenged) when it arrived in 1952 as the Renown 2nd series/Mark II. The rear door windows look a smidgen long (especially the kerbside one), but the shallow viewing angle makes it difficult to tell.

bwob

Dicer

26th June 2011, 10:06

The first Layco*ck overdrive was introduced on the Standard Vanguard, a car which shared the same frame as the Renown, according to this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overdrive_%28mechanics%29

The first production vehicle to feature the Layco*ck system was the 1948 Standard Vanguard Saloon. The first unit to be created was the A-type overdrive, this was fitted to many sports cars during the 1950s.

I had a couple of those Vanguards, same good old tractor engine as the 4-cyl TR sports cars.

'lilRedRide

26th June 2011, 10:33

Trabant P50?

Ohhh, so close...

puff4

26th June 2011, 11:10

Mk 1 TBD.

Overdrive baby!!!!

Absolutely correct! :thumbs:

The first car ever to get the amazing Layco*ck de Normanville overdrive, which became a much desired option in everything from Ferraris and Volvos to Austin Healeys and Jaguars. And they are not at all 'dreaded'... in fact they are still much loved and wanted by enthusiasts, and claim a *very* high price on the market these days. I have one on my Sunbeam Alpine and you'd have to pry it from my cold dead fingers!! :)

As for the article, it is incorrect. I know this because I have the original (first) Layco*ck repair manual and it happens to be for the Renown models. I can understand the confusion however, as the Renown has a Standard-Vanguard engine and is considered part of the Standard-Vanguard line.

And my car is indeed a TDB... the TDC had a pop-up vent at the front of the windshield and push-button door handles, so that was the give-away from this front view.

puff4

26th June 2011, 11:25

Ohhh, so close...

Yes, he was close. It looks like a P50, but it is in fact a P60, as one can tell by the body side moldings.

'lilRedRide

26th June 2011, 12:04

Yes, he was close. It looks like a P50, but it is in fact a P60, as one can tell by the body side moldings.

Score.

Cotton cars for a new world order.

You're up.

puff4

26th June 2011, 19:37

OK, so a close friend and I restored one of these many years ago. It had an unusual French-sounding rear suspension, but was otherwise of pretty standard build for the day.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/procolharum/gryhnd.jpg

bwob

26th June 2011, 19:38

"...they are not at all 'dreaded'..."

My father's experience with Layco*ck de Normaville overdrive on his TR-3, three Austin Healeys plus my mom's Jag MkVII, Sunbeam Rapier, Volvo P1800 and her Volvo 1800S would allow them to qualify as 'dreaded'. But then the electrics on those cars - save the Volvo 1800S - would also qualify as ratsh*t so the electric overdrive was not alone when it came to dreadfulness.

And to be fair, unlike the gawdawful SU fuel pumps - especially in the first and second Healeys - when the overdrive decided to take a thermonuclear dump the car was not imobilised. The situation with the SU fuel pump caused my dad to have the things taken out within a week of bringing the car home and replaced by an AC electric fuel pump, warranty be damned. As I recall, they never had the 'work stoppages' the SUs did when they decided to go on strike and the service manager at the dealer where my dad bought his cars understood the issue and looked the other way.

The Rapier was the car we had the fewest problems with as regards the overdrive, but it was without a doubt the worst car of the lot (and by a sizeable margin). On a good day the Sunbeam (a 1961 Series III drophead) was a complete pus bucket, and I am being kind. After the Jaguar, itself a borderline hangar queen in any event, the Rapier was a serious letdown for my mom. After attempting to live with it for about 18 months, one night at dinner she told my dad that she was going to walk out on us if the Rapier "isn't replaced with a real car". I don't know if she was joking, but the P1800 arrived a few weeks after she made this announcement.

My brother and I believe the Sunbeam's overdrive was 'better' because the car was driven very little in relationship to the ones my mom owned before and after and it also had the smallest, least powerful engine of anything in our garage that was overdrive-equipped.

The Service Manager at Peter Satori, the dealer where my dad tended to buy his cars, said that we "drove too much" and that's why the overdrives were croaking. Okeh, I don't think that 15,000 to 18,000 miles a year qualifies as 'too much' (especially considering how anal my dad was about service), but perhaps by the standard of the more compact British Isles it was. Mind you if that's the case, they probably should have never been exported to begin with.

By the time my mom bought the first Volvo in 1962 and my dad bought his last Healey in 1967, once the cars were out of warranty they went to see George, our beloved (not to mention brilliant) pommy mechanic and owner of the British Car Centre (complete with proper spelling of the 'c' word) in Glendale who lobotomised the finicky and less-than-dependable overdrive.

So maybe not dreaded for you, but after the Hall family experience (and others I suspect, based on how George always had cars in his shop that had dead or dying L de N overdrive units) they certainly qualified as pretty friggin' miserable in this neighbourhood.

bwob

bwob

26th June 2011, 19:39

OK, so a close friend and I restored one of these many years ago. It had an unusual French-sounding rear suspension, but was otherwise of pretty standard build for the day.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/procolharum/gryhnd.jpg

Peerless GT, later known as a Warwick GT after the mob building the Peerless went bankrupt.

Here's that damned Layco*ck de Normanville overdrive again, wedged betwen the back of Triumph TR-3 powertrain and a de Dion rear suspension setup: "the IRS you want when you don't want an IRS" as Mr. Yamamoto once jokingly called it.

bwob

puff4

26th June 2011, 20:43

Right you are, it's a Peerless GT. :thumbs:

You can tell it isn't a Warwick, btw, because it doesn't have a seam along the front wing (from where the bonnet tilts forward). I think they only made about 250 Peerless cars and about another 40 Warwicks.

The Warwick GT:

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Jonathan%20Moore/09-09%20Goodwood%20Revival%20Race/SH-Revival-RaceB-011.jpg

aussieeemex

26th June 2011, 23:28

bwob

26th June 2011, 23:57

At which? The Peerless or the Warwick?

Um, I already did.

bwob

'lilRedRide

27th June 2011, 00:26

Post a ride please, your turn.

:thumbs:

bwob

27th June 2011, 12:08

Ah, got it.

While an obscure car, in a certain (and pretty large) circle it's rather well-known. This is largely because of its heritage and DNA.

It was never officially sold in the USA or the EU.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/bwob/Miata%20net/9581f65e.png
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/bwob/Miata%20net/e2b800cc.png

Sporty, two-seater, four-cylinder. The yellow cars is at factory ride height, the orange one has been 'enhanced' by the owner.

For a 'win', please supply the manufacturer, model name and place of manufacture.

Good luck.

bwob

rloewy

27th June 2011, 12:12

bwob

27th June 2011, 12:19

Wow, that one didn't last long. I should have picked a Ford Corcel instead of an SP.

Mr. Loewy gets the gong.

Your turn, but please, no Avantis or 1953 Studebaker Starlight Coupes.

bwob

puff4

27th June 2011, 12:46

puff4

27th June 2011, 13:11

Wow, that one didn't last long. I should have picked a Ford Corcel instead of an SP.

Mr. Loewy gets the gong.

Your turn, but please, no Avantis or 1953 Studebaker Starlight Coupes.

bwob

I'm assuming you also don't want him posting any Hillmans, either? ;)

http://www.philseed.com/images/hmminx57.jpg

rloewy

27th June 2011, 15:20

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6441/whatisthisfrom.jpg

What car is this from?

KostasV2

27th June 2011, 15:26

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6441/whatisthisfrom.jpg

What car is this from?

Alfa 75?

rloewy

27th June 2011, 15:31

puff4

27th June 2011, 16:54

KostasV2

27th June 2011, 17:12

rloewy

27th June 2011, 17:17

KostasV2

27th June 2011, 17:28

Autobianchi Primula - first hatchback, if memory serves

Correct. Fiat's first fwd car among other things...

rloewy

27th June 2011, 17:46

bwob

27th June 2011, 18:33

Okeh, lemme jump in again since the VW do Brasil SP2 was spotted so damn quickly.

Please remember that things are not always as they appear and that the Gods live in the details:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/bwob/Miata%20net/6b3ae2ce.png

Make, model and year please. Bonus points (redeemable nowhere) for the configuration of the standard engine in this model.

bwob

bwob

27th June 2011, 19:31

"4 minutes between post and solve. That's gotta be a record! Nice job."

No, not at all. It appears that the current record is about two minutes. That was for the question posed in post #5766 and the correct answer appearing in post #5768.

But four minutes is bloody good in any event.

bwob

raff

27th June 2011, 19:58

Make, model and year please. Bonus points (redeemable nowhere) for the configuration of the standard engine in this model.

bwob

Chrysler Valiant Charger (from Australia & South Africa) in '71 - 72; akin to our Demon in the USA.
I'd guess the engine to be the venerable 225 ci slant six.

'lilRedRide

27th June 2011, 20:31

Demon had the 340 and was also oh so close to being named the 'Beaver'.

So in '71 Mopar would have been offering the Swinger and the Beaver...

Gotta love the 70's!

bwob

27th June 2011, 21:31

"Chrysler Valiant Charger (from Australia & South Africa) in '71 - 72; akin to our Demon in the USA.
I'd guess the engine to be the venerable 225 ci slant six."

You have to pick one, as the Australian and South African Chargers were very different beasts. The only common parts between the two were the badges.

The Demon came real, REAL close to being the Dodge Beaver. So close, in fact, that Chrysler even ordered stickers (used instead of badges on the Duster and Demon) for the Beaver that were produced and shipped by the supplier but intercepted before they got to the assembly plants. A few managed to avoid the corporate order to shred 'em as well and are quite sought after.

bwob

raff

27th June 2011, 21:34

aussieeemex

27th June 2011, 21:34

bwob

27th June 2011, 21:47

Okeh Raff-san, you win by a nose.

The white front reflectors - for years a 'trademark' of South African cars are a giveaway that it's from the RSA.

The Australian Charger used (as did the VH series Valiant it shared a ton of components with) a completely different bodyshell to the US Plymouth and Dodge A-cars, with the South African cars maintaining the American connection. The South African Valiant Charger appeared with a 1970 Dodge Dart nose on the 1970 Duster body (complete with horizontally segmented taillamps) in 1970, a year before the Beaver, er, Demon appeared.

South African cars used the 225 Slant Six, though since the previous VG series Australian Valiant (based on mix of American 1967 Dodge Dart and Plymouth Valiant bits, though with unique front sheetmetal), the Aussie cars had been using the in-line Hemi six in 215, 245 and 265 cubic inch versions. The South African Valiant Charger differed mechanically from the local Valiant sedan by fitting a four-barrel carburettor on an Edelbrock (really) manifold for a bit more horsepressure than the normal Valiant.

Over to you Raff-san...

bwob

raff

27th June 2011, 22:05

Roger

28th June 2011, 11:39

It had an unusual French-sounding rear suspension,

Not surprising it's French-sounding, it is French. Named after the Comte de Dion, and first installed in de Dion - Bouton cars.

bwob

28th June 2011, 15:38

"An evening delight --"

I am probably wrong, but it reminds me of an incorrectly restored Cunningham Vignale Coupe.

bwob

raff

28th June 2011, 17:36

I am probably wrong, but it reminds me of an incorrectly restored Cunningham Vignale Coupe.

bwob

No and no - but the panel beaters were Italian.

Dicer

28th June 2011, 19:21

aussieeemex

28th June 2011, 19:35

raff

28th June 2011, 19:39

Looks like some kind of '50s Lancia.

Early '50s is correct, Lancia is not.

rloewy

28th June 2011, 19:48

raff

28th June 2011, 20:27

Maserati A6G?

Yes indeed:thumbs:
http://flickriver.com/photos/dmentd1/sets/72157622417612632/

You're up --

rloewy

28th June 2011, 20:33

puff4

29th June 2011, 00:08

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/9122/whoamih.jpg

I'm guessing a Bristol variant.

bwob

29th June 2011, 00:54

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/9122/whoamih.jpg

Okeh lowey-san, that's a Pininfarina-bodied Maserati A6. The Prototype that Pininfarina unveiled at the 1947 Geneva Motor Show, to be more precise.

Production cars had different (exposed) headlamps, some tweaks to the front and an altered roofline with two rear quarter-windows as seen here:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/bwob/Miata%20net/69a1df79.png

The later A6G looked a lot better, especially in the front.

bwob

rloewy

29th June 2011, 10:28

bwob

29th June 2011, 13:11

Okeh, my turn then.

Um, how 'bout this one?
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/bwob/Miata%20net/b713f812.png

Inasmuch as the brand is self-evident, how bout just the model and some additional info on the car?

bwob

eunosfan

29th June 2011, 13:46

bwob

29th June 2011, 13:50

Well, thats A Brazillian VW Ford Orion, this version being called the VW Logus. Used a VW engine and box. The old Mk4 Escort was pretty bloody awful, so god knows what this heap would have been like.

You get the gong saz, and in damn good time.

The Logus was a pretty grim collection of parts, one that seemed to draw on the faults of the donor bits rather than the few pluses both had. It well-and-truly felt like a car that wasn't finished when it rolled out of the factory.

Over to you.

bwob

davisinla

29th June 2011, 13:59

You know, I used to think I knew my cars, and was an active member of this thread early on. But I eventually had to concede to some of you real experts - I just stop by periodically for entertainment (and education ;)).

All I can say is that it is too bad one couldn't easily compile pics of all the vehicles which have appeared in this thread...it would make one heck of an encyclopedia!

eunosfan

29th June 2011, 14:40

Ok, enough of polished cars, and something thats a bit more current.

Name the SUV.

rloewy

29th June 2011, 14:43

raff

29th June 2011, 15:52

After going through too much middle eastern war footage --

CHAMCO truck - a product of the China America Cooperative Automotive.
http://www.pickuptrucks.com/html/autoshows/naias2008/chamco/page1.html

eunosfan

29th June 2011, 16:16

'lilRedRide

29th June 2011, 16:40

Side note...

DIY rebel armory. (http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/06/diy-weapons-of-the-libyan-rebels/100086/)

Industrious in a pinch we humans are, seems we don't get to it until lives are lost though.

Weird.

Carry on!

raff

29th June 2011, 17:13

I guess I misspoke -- it's a product of the Zhongxing Co.

http://www.china-pickup.com/catalogue/title/zx-auto-bq2023q-grand-tiger
http://www.china-pickup.com/images/items/21/main/main.jpg.jpg

eunosfan

29th June 2011, 18:13

'lilRedRide

29th June 2011, 18:26

raff

29th June 2011, 19:38

Close enough. I think these Chinese pickups have proved their worth.

Next up -- make and model of this harbinger.

mimini1

29th June 2011, 19:42

raff

29th June 2011, 20:31

1961 Datsun Fairlady

You got it:thumbs:

mimini1

30th June 2011, 05:36

Tiger

30th June 2011, 08:09

I have nothing at this moment. Someone go ahead and post another.

OK. probably easy. Racing heritage connection.

aussieeemex

30th June 2011, 08:58

Tiger

30th June 2011, 09:36

Commer Cob Series III Brabham Conversion?

Exactly! :thumbs: Your turn.

aussieeemex

30th June 2011, 09:39

rloewy

30th June 2011, 10:53

That's a Volvo prototype with Vignale body.

Well, I am actually not sure it is a Vignale body (looks like it). but it is called Volvo Margarete Rose.

The "Registro Vignale" mentions two Volvos - Elisabeth I and II - so this is not a Vignale - but I suspect that whoever made it was probably inspired by those.

aussieeemex

30th June 2011, 20:52

puff4

2nd July 2011, 00:04

'lilRedRide

2nd July 2011, 00:26

I been wantin' to toss one up and somewhere I got a win in reserve so...

Saw this in the background of another pic.

aussieeemex

2nd July 2011, 03:06

rloewy

2nd July 2011, 12:33

Sometimes being on the microcar list for some unknown reason has it's benefits.

It's an ABC Tricar.

http://www.minimarcos.org.uk/altpics/tricar/index.html

rloewy

2nd July 2011, 12:36

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/21/namethiscar72201193543a.jpg

Give this one a try.

OHFOSHO

2nd July 2011, 13:45

rloewy

2nd July 2011, 13:49

Lancia Aurelia B50 Vignale

Yup. This car used to be in the US (used to belong to Donald Osborne). Currently for sale in Italy.

http://www.autobelle.it/annunci/dettid.php?gb_id=134892

OHFOSHO

2nd July 2011, 13:54

Ok, next one:

http://i52.tinypic.com/2cnt5pl.jpg

'lilRedRide

2nd July 2011, 14:04

Seems Vignale had only one cake pan so to speak and just changed up the icing here and there.

:dunno:

bwob

2nd July 2011, 22:42

Ok, next one:

http://i52.tinypic.com/2cnt5pl.jpg

That's an Enfield 8000 Electric, As I recall they between 1973 and 1977 they built them on the Isle of Wight, already famous for the Saudners-Roe Princess at the other end of the size chart.

bwob

OHFOSHO

3rd July 2011, 00:01

That's an Enfield 8000 Electric, As I recall they between 1973 and 1977 they built them on the Isle of Wight, already famous for the Saudners-Roe Princess at the other end of the size chart.

bwob

:thumbs: You're up

'lilRedRide

3rd July 2011, 00:30

Saunders-Roe Princess at the other end of the size chart.

bwob

You aint kiddin' there!!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saunders-Roe_Princess)

Atsa big boat!

bwob

3rd July 2011, 03:08

Okeh, here we go for your pleasure, a fine Grand Touring machine...
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/bwob/Miata%20net/1759ed28.png

bwob

Muti007

3rd July 2011, 09:51

NC too

3rd July 2011, 11:50

JEnsen Interceptor?

Looks German... BMW lineage?

OHFOSHO

3rd July 2011, 12:25

bwob

3rd July 2011, 13:02

Brasinca Uirapuru

Good answer, not to mention the correct one.

Okeh, over to you.

bwob

OHFOSHO

3rd July 2011, 13:17

bwob

3rd July 2011, 13:23

Moskvitch 408 cabriolet...Socalism's Miata!

bwob

'lilRedRide

3rd July 2011, 13:26

I'd drive it.

увеличить увеличить товарищ

OHFOSHO

3rd July 2011, 13:31

Moskvitch 408 cabriolet...Socalism's Miata!

bwob

Too bad they made only 2 convertible Moskvitch 408s.

puff4

3rd July 2011, 13:51

Brasinca Uirapuru

Looks to me like the designer spent way too much time looking at Jensens and Avantis.

Chas H

3rd July 2011, 13:53

bwob

3rd July 2011, 14:05

Perhaps open-air driving was thought counter-revolutionary or too frivolous for the masses by the apparatchiks. Then again, it may have been a - gasp - commercial decision since there may not be a lot of folks who'd want to be driving a convertible of any sort in Russia in, say, February.

I've driven a Moskvitch 412, an 'updated' version of the 408 with a Russian copy of a 1963 BMW 1500 engine under the hood. The engine was surprisingly responsive, the chassis surprisingly soggy and the brakes surprisingly bad. But it was so damned funky and other-worldly I would still love one to park next to my Skoda 120LS and my Wartburg 1.3, if I had a Skoda 120LS and a Wartburg 1.3 to park next to my Moskvitch.

Change of pace time!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/bwob/Miata%20net/e58e6b79.png
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/bwob/Miata%20net/4617d6e7.png

Okeh, how about vintage, make, model, series and any other amusing details about this 'sporty' looking coupe? Information on this car would be like chrome on a 1958 Buick. That is to say, if some is good, more is better and too much is just enough.

bwob

bwob

3rd July 2011, 14:16

For those who just can't get enough of the partially unpronounceable Brasinca Uirapuru, here are a couple of additional tidbits:

bwob

'lilRedRide

3rd July 2011, 14:22

I've had plenty, thanks...

I got an ugly one for you guys, I just have to grab a win first!

:p

'lilRedRide

3rd July 2011, 14:30

OHFOSHO

3rd July 2011, 15:40

1973 Chevrolet Firenza Can-Am.

Conceived by South African saloon car champions Basil van Rooyen and Geoff Mortimer to race and rally. In order to compete in the South African Production Car Championships one hundred road going examples had to be sold. Powered by a Chevrolet 302 Ci engine with a power output of 290 bhp and a weight of only 1100 kg. The engine is a Z28 built for US competition but available in the Z28 Camaro.
Transmission is from a four speed Muncie gearbox with Borg Warner LSD and top speeds are claimed to be: 1st gear = 130 km/h. 2nd gear = 162 km/h 3rd gear = 200+ km/h 4th = 230++ km/h
All of the Can Am's are finished in white with black and white bonnets

bwob

3rd July 2011, 16:13

Close enough for Military work. It's all yours.

bwob

Muti007

3rd July 2011, 16:24

Good answer, not to mention the correct one.

Okeh, over to you.

bwob

I figured the Jensen was too easy for this thread, but G-D they look identical from that angle!

http://www.carfolio.com/images/dbimages/zgas/models/id/5795/68ff.jpg

OHFOSHO

3rd July 2011, 16:28

Ok, give this one a shot:

http://i56.tinypic.com/nv8uhi.png

Chas H

3rd July 2011, 17:25

I figured the Jensen was too easy for this thread, but G-D they look identical from that angle!

Someone did a video highlighting the differences between the 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLYnmtMJMi4

Muti007

3rd July 2011, 17:34

Someone did a video highlighting the differences between the 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLYnmtMJMi4

Yep, I also watched that a couple hours ago after the car was identified here.

aussieeemex

3rd July 2011, 19:02

Ok, give this one a shot:

http://i56.tinypic.com/nv8uhi.png

Justicialista Super Sport? Looks like a baddly made Nissan Figaro...

OHFOSHO

3rd July 2011, 19:16

Justicialista Super Sport? Looks like a baddly made Nissan Figaro...

Yep. Its a Justicialista, although I think it is a Gran Sport. This one is a 1955. Possibly powered by a Porsche engine.

aussieeemex

3rd July 2011, 20:28

raff

3rd July 2011, 21:04

aussieeemex

3rd July 2011, 21:08

Looks just like one of those Lightburn Zetas (based on the Frisky Sprint of the late '50s.)

Well done!

Dont know wether Bwob was privy, but Peter Robinson (Wheels Magazine) commented if you turn the key one way it 4 forward speeds and 1 reverse, turn the key the opposite way and it has 4 reverse speeds and 1 forward.

raff

3rd July 2011, 21:32

Well done!

Dont know wether Bwob was privy, but Peter Robinson (Wheels Magazine) commented if you turn the key one way it 4 forward speeds and 1 reverse, turn the key the opposite way and it has 4 reverse speeds and 1 forward.

By getting the engine to run opposite its normal rotation -- that's what you get.
That's how we used to win drag races against more powerful opponents in our 2-stroke SAABs:D

'lilRedRide

3rd July 2011, 21:33

Well done!

Dont know wether Bwob was privy, but Peter Robinson (Wheels Magazine) commented if you turn the key one way it 4 forward speeds and 1 reverse, turn the key the opposite way and it has 4 reverse speeds and 1 forward.

I thought it was a two stroke that could run backwards or forwards because there was no reverse gear, you just made it run backwards.

:dunno:

'lilRedRide

3rd July 2011, 21:34

aussieeemex

3rd July 2011, 21:42

raff

3rd July 2011, 22:43

Can I throw one down?

Thinking aloud -- I swear I've seen something similar from South America ...

bwob

3rd July 2011, 23:04

I'm sitting this out for a little while. Some new blood's needed and I don't want the thread to get inbred.

bwob

Muti007

3rd July 2011, 23:12

aussieeemex

4th July 2011, 00:02

In my 37 years, I have yet to meet someone that was into or knew as many cars as myself. This thread illustrates I know squat.

Same, although this sort of learning you could ever get in normal school!

BOT, the breadvan has been subject to a styling committee that got everything they wanted.

'lilRedRide

4th July 2011, 00:06

OHFOSHO

5th July 2011, 13:37

The green machine is related to something just as odd looking not so long gone here...

:wave: FEI x-3 Lavina.

Created by Rigoberto Soler (designer Brasinca Uirapuru 4200 GT) and students of the Faculty of Industrial Engineering, the X3 was presented at the Motor Show in 1970. Its design is inverted wing to achieve downforce, with doors "gull wing" dual exhaust on the side and a flap in the back, which help curb the prototype. Its engine is the V8 Dodge Dart, with higher compression ratio and more power. Two years later, was made in the same room, but with green paint and name Lavinia, in honor of the wife of the mayor of Sao Bernardo do Campo, host city of the FEI. It was restored and presented at the Motor Show in 2004.

OHFOSHO

5th July 2011, 14:48

raff

5th July 2011, 22:10

From Brazil -- early '70s Willys Aero ( but manufactured by Ford of Brazil) -- it's an interesting story.

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-189371129-aero-willys-1971-raridade--_JM

http://img.mercadolivre.com.br/jm/img?s=MLB&f=189371129_9506.jpg&v=M

OHFOSHO

5th July 2011, 22:18

From Brazil -- early '70s Willys Aero ( but manufactured by Ford of Brazil) -- it's an interesting story.

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-189371129-aero-willys-1971-raridade--_JM

http://img.mercadolivre.com.br/jm/img?s=MLB&f=189371129_9506.jpg&v=M

:toast::toast:

raff

5th July 2011, 22:40

97 M8

5th July 2011, 22:58

raff

5th July 2011, 23:19

125935

Good memory :thumbs:
Good album (on vinyl):thumbs:

97 M8

5th July 2011, 23:37

Easy one.

125937

bwob

5th July 2011, 23:51

Easy one.

Ford Mach 2, sometimes referred to as the Mustang Mach 2. One of Larry Shinoda's best works, though little known nowadays.

bwob

97 M8

6th July 2011, 00:04

Ford Mach 2, sometimes referred to as the Mustang Mach 2. One of Larry Shinoda's best works, though little known nowadays.

bwob

Spot on.:thumbs: Your up.

bwob

6th July 2011, 00:21

Okeh, I suspect this one will have an un-guessed half-life similar to your choice of man-made elements.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/bwob/Miata%20net/9b89023a.png

Happy trails.

bwob

aussieeemex

6th July 2011, 00:40

bwob

6th July 2011, 00:45

"Autozam Clef! based on the GE platform 626?"

As Gary Cooper would say...yup.

(I figured that one was gonna be nauseatingly easy, but it was the next image in the queue and I still have a couple hundred more to go...)

Over to you m8!

bwob

(P.S. - Stoopid™ question, but can we use scrap views for the mystery cars? This sorta thing for example:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/bwob/Miata%20net/830ca8f2.png
Just curious.)

aussieeemex

6th July 2011, 00:51

Thanks Bwob, I dont mind the scrap views. Was it Hirai-san that played a similiar game?

This one? (may be a bit easy)

bwob

6th July 2011, 00:55

Easy? Like knowing that B2 is B1's buddy or that Humphrey has had his knees re-possesed.

I think I will sit this 'hand' out and give someone else a chance.

bwob

aussieeemex

6th July 2011, 01:13

Easy? Like knowing that B2 is B1's buddy or that Humphrey has had his knees re-possesed.

bwob

Yes, all of the above LOL

OHFOSHO

7th July 2011, 01:15

マツダ
ペルソナ

Open floor.

aussieeemex

7th July 2011, 02:26

raff

7th July 2011, 10:26

Tiger

7th July 2011, 10:48

While we wait --

Something you'd watch on TV?

'lilRedRide

7th July 2011, 11:15

As in "TV" Tommy Ivo?

It doesn't really have a 'name' though.

4 Buick 455 nailheads and 4 wheel drive!

raff

7th July 2011, 11:55

Something you'd watch on TV?

(or someone) - :thumbs:

As in "TV" Tommy Ivo?

It doesn't really have a 'name' though.

4 Buick 455 nailheads and 4 wheel drive!

Yes/True:thumbs:

Tiger

7th July 2011, 12:52

raff

7th July 2011, 15:34

we're down to .... Moldavian taxicabs now.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

OHFOSHO

7th July 2011, 20:39

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

lets make this happen:

http://i52.tinypic.com/2nl91qv.png

bwob

7th July 2011, 22:50

GAZ Volga taxi! Looks like a GAZ-3110, and a 'well loved' pre 2003 facelift car.

Y'know, based on the background, the model of cellphone the bloke's using, his T-shirt, the road surface and the guy in the Ministerul Afacerilor Interne (A.K.A. secret police) Daewoo parked in the background, the picture may have been taken on the outskirts of picturesque Arionesti in northeastern Moldova/Moldavia.

Just thinking about that makes me hungry for a big serving of balmoş. Ummm...

bwob

OHFOSHO

8th July 2011, 00:50

Yep, its from somewhere in Moldova (Chişinău?).

Top tip: When traveling by taxi in Chişinău, make sure the taxi is numbered starting with "14".

Tiger

8th July 2011, 09:03

lets make this happen:

OK, can I have my leg back now? :O

raff

8th July 2011, 14:36

... and Moldavian taxicabs now.

OK, can I have my leg back now? :O

Okay -

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4482229314_7484cf4658_m.jpg

bwob

8th July 2011, 14:42

If the world were an episode of the original Mission: Impossible, the car was painted black (or army green with a red star on the door), it would be a stand-in for a Russian car...or one built in the EEPR.

But certainly not something from Kalamazoo...

bwob

raff

8th July 2011, 15:31

OK, can I have my leg back now? :O

Better?

http://jackhammond.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/8844.jpg?w=300&h=240

eunosfan

8th July 2011, 16:22

I've lost the plot now; is this guess the taxi cab, or anatomical drawings.

Relative obscurity

bwob

8th July 2011, 17:46

I think I'll sit this one out. Waaaaay too easy.

bwob

eunosfan

9th July 2011, 06:46

I think I'll sit this one out. Waaaaay too easy.

bwob

Obviously not.

bwob

9th July 2011, 12:13

Obviously yes. I speak (type?) only for myself, not others.

bwob

raff

9th July 2011, 13:42

Obviously yes. I speak (type?) only for myself, not others.

bwob

Not that easy -- but I'm laboring without benefit of a "w".

1971(?) Winchester Series IV with a fiberglass body.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45676495@N05/5036533578/

eunosfan

9th July 2011, 14:30

Not that easy -- but I'm laboring without benefit of a "w".

1971(?) Winchester Series IV with a fiberglass body.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45676495@N05/5036533578/

Yes. A rebodied Ford Transit. It never caught on to replace the FX4.

eunosfan

9th July 2011, 14:31

Obviously yes. I speak (type?) only for myself, not others.

bwob

Who are you?:realmad:

'lilRedRide

9th July 2011, 15:03

Who are you?

I'm fairly certain he's this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hall_%28journalist%29)...

bwob

9th July 2011, 15:11

I'm fairly certain he's this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hall_%28journalist%29)...

Never heard of the bastard.

You're up Raff-san.

bwob

eunosfan

9th July 2011, 15:30

I'm fairly certain he's this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hall_%28journalist%29)...

I was just wondering the sort of person who would take the time to type "this is so easy, I'm not going to answer". Seems slightly spoilery for the person who did get it. And a bit of a put down for those that didn't.

No car on this thread is easy. We all have different perspectives. A car familiar to Europeans would probably be less to the Colonials, and vice versa.

bwob

9th July 2011, 16:03

And calling Americans 'colonials' isn't a put-down?

Okeh, that places things clearly in perspective. Thank you.

bwob

raff

9th July 2011, 16:55

bwob

9th July 2011, 17:15

What a fascinating thing to find on the fairway!

I was in attendance when and where this picture was taken, so I will bow-out here as well. This way we can look forward to another disparaging comment from Mr. Saz on my decision to let someone else have a go at coming up with an answer or another swipe my heritage, his choice. Perhaps both. Either one has a chance - albeit remote - to offer some vacuous entertainment on a quiet Saturday.

bwob

'lilRedRide

9th July 2011, 17:38

Ouch...

I got singed just reading that one.

Carry on!

:p

Lucky Scar

9th July 2011, 21:57

Another Saturday night delight -

Cushman?!?

puff4

9th July 2011, 22:07

Geez, where's Bucky Fuller when you need him?

I did manage to find its child:

http://s4.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/C72D72AA.jpg

raff

9th July 2011, 22:11

Cushman?!?

Geez, where's Bucky Fuller when you need him?

I did manage to find its child:

No cigar for either.:rolleyes:

bwob

9th July 2011, 22:15

Y'know, perhaps it reproduces via eggs...

bwob

raff

9th July 2011, 22:29

ajsmiata

9th July 2011, 22:50

And calling Americans 'colonials' isn't a put-down?
bwob

According to Jeremy Clarkson, we are the God squad.

bwob

9th July 2011, 23:33

Now that's a rather fascinating idea.

Fascinating indeed Raff-san!

bwob

Otto W

9th July 2011, 23:54

I was just wondering the sort of person who would take the time to type "this is so easy, I'm not going to answer". Seems slightly spoilery for the person who did get it. And a bit of a put down for those that didn't.

No car on this thread is easy. We all have different perspectives. A car familiar to Europeans would probably be less to the Colonials, and vice versa.

I click and look a this thread not because I have a chance to name one of the cars but to learn a little more about them and to see some funky vehicles. Like many I thought I knew a bit about vehicles but compared to the common responders on this thread then I realized I know jack.

You asked who this bwob guy is... after reading about our cars I learned he is the guy we should all thank for helping build a roadster that hasn't died out after a few short years.

And calling Americans 'colonials' isn't a put-down?

bwob

...bwob has a point. Might have been better to say that coming from and living in different parts of the world some vehicles are probably easier to name just based on geographical location.... Though trust me plenty of us Americans are just as lost in this challenge as you.

Otto W

10th July 2011, 00:02

Q. Sorry but I have a question and this might just be the best thread to ask it...

Tonight I saw a car that was shaped kind of like a smart car, but smaller, I think the front end was flatter but most stand out feature was the rear wheels where a lot closer than the front, I would say half the distance. When I first saw it I thought it was a trike. We were traveling in different directions and on a turn so I didn't get the chance to take a closer look.

Anyone know what it might have been? :dunno:

eunosfan

10th July 2011, 07:00

And calling Americans 'colonials' isn't a put-down?

Okeh, that places things clearly in perspective. Thank you.

bwob

"Colonials" is easier to say than Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, South Africans etc. Nothing meant by it.

eunosfan

10th July 2011, 07:06

You asked who this bwob guy is...

Actually I knew who Bwob was, and who Bob Hall is. But many many moons ago, I exchanged a lot of emails with Bob Hall who came over a lot more friendly back then.

But this is all a distraction. The very first post in this thread was a Mk3 Ford Fiesta. My, how this thread has progressed.

97 M8

10th July 2011, 10:11

Q. Sorry but I have a question and this might just be the best thread to ask it...

Tonight I saw a car that was shaped kind of like a smart car, but smaller, I think the front end was flatter but most stand out feature was the rear wheels where a lot closer than the front, I would say half the distance. When I first saw it I thought it was a trike. We were traveling in different directions and on a turn so I didn't get the chance to take a closer look.

Anyone know what it might have been? :dunno:

Maybe this?

126094

eunosfan

10th July 2011, 12:13

Another Saturday night delight -

1969 Airomobile Fascination prototype, allegedly.

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Fascination/69-Fascination-Prototype-DV-10-AI_a02.jpg

Otto W

10th July 2011, 12:36

Maybe this?

126094

Yep that's it. What is it called?

'lilRedRide

10th July 2011, 12:38

BMW Isetta.

Well actually I can't be certain what you saw was a BMW, but it IS an Isetta.

Isetta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isetta)

bwob

10th July 2011, 14:02

For a long time a surprising number of BMW fanboys refused to believe the Isetta was a BMW, let along that it was what kept the company afloat during the cash crisis and brush with bankruptcy generated by the 501 and its spinoffs.

For a long time BMW kept the little bubblecar, conceived and designed by Iso of later sports car fame then re-engined by BMW, in the background, rather like an unloved uncle. But as time passed and the company became more self-confident as regards PR activities its sort of 'bubbled' to the surface.

While Isettas were four-wheeled with a very narrow rear track in most markets, a three-wheeled version existed for sales in Ireland and Great Britain where tax regulations and operator licensing loopholes offered some artificial benefits to cars missing a wheel. BMW assembled the three-wheelers for the British Isles in a former locomotive works, with the German plant dedicated to the more popular four-wheeled version.

Three wheelers had brief popularity in postwar Germany with entry-level buyers (though mainly on a cost basis rather than a series of government-supplied subsidies), but by the late 1950s~early 1960s when the economy had recovered sufficiently people got over the trikes. German buying public always had four-wheeled Isettas served up until production stopped in 1962.

There's a Trihawk thread elsewhere in Car Talk that mentions the 1980s conceived-in-Illinois-but-built-in-California two-seater using a very well done revival of the Morgan/BSA layout with the broadest portion of the triangular geometry at the front where the engine mass was. The Trihawk used a Citroen GSA air cooled flat four driving the front wheels while Morgans were rear-drive. Trihawk initially approached Subaru to buy engines and gearboxes, but they did not take the project seriously and refused.

After producing fewer than 100 cars between 1982 and 1985, Trihawk was purchased by Harley Davidson (who certainly did not do their homework before the purchase), moving the operations back to their HQs. When their own engine would not fit in the car without a complete redo of the front end - suspension included - the HD people approached my employer, Mazda R&D of North America, for help. But while they left the Trihawk with us for almost two months, that's for another time and another thread, not to mention way off the subject of a BMW Isetta.

bwob

raff

10th July 2011, 14:32

1969 Airomobile Fascination prototype, allegedly.

Yes indeed:thumbs:
http://www.conceptcarz.com/z18213/Fascination-Prototype.aspx

Your turn to dazzle us.

bwob

10th July 2011, 14:42

Allegedly dazzle.

Methinks I'll wait this one out as well.

bwob

eunosfan

10th July 2011, 15:49

puff4

10th July 2011, 17:22

This

It's a Russian-built GAZ ("Gorky Auto Plant") GL-1, 1938 model. The look-alike 1936 Auburn radiator grill would make most folks think this is a US-built car, but it's a knock-off design of the US car.

Now, let's take a watery diversion to something car-related....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/procolharum/boatontrailer.jpg

Give us the brand of boat and the model... and bonus points for who designed it and why he is important in car circles.

bwob

10th July 2011, 17:45

"It's a Russian-built GAZ GL-1, 1938 model. The look-alike 1936 Auburn radiator grill would make most folks think this is a US-built car."

Yup, another easy one since that picture is ALL over the internets. The 'coupe' looked cool in a perverse sort of way...
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/bwob/781f2337.png

And it still exists in restored form...
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/bwob/Miata%20net/f2b36a65.png

This gem was a stripped version of the GAZ M1 sedan and in September, 1940 set an 'All-Union' (ie Soviet national) speed record of 161.9km/h, roughly 100mph.

"Give us the brand of boat and the model... and bonus points for who designed it and why he is important in car circles."

One of my favorite designers, and not only of cars and boats but tons of other stuff, too.

bwob

eunosfan

10th July 2011, 19:10

It's a Russian-built GAZ ("Gorky Auto Plant") GL-1, 1938 model. The look-alike 1936 Auburn radiator grill would make most folks think this is a US-built car, but it's a knock-off design of the US car.

Now, let's take a watery diversion to something car-related....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/procolharum/boatontrailer.jpg

Give us the brand of boat and the model... and bonus points for who designed it and why he is important in car circles.

Complete, vague guess, because this is guess the car, not guess the boat. Some sort of Century, designed by some bloke called Richard Arbib, whom I gather ran some sort of business with Harley Earl.

I'm wrong though, because boats aren't my thing.

raff

10th July 2011, 20:07

Give us the brand of boat and the model... and bonus points for who designed it and why he is important in car circles.

With right-hand drive, it must be of English origin.;)

aussieeemex

10th July 2011, 20:29

For a long time a surprising number of BMW fanboys refused to believe the Isetta was a BMW, let along that it was what kept the company afloat during the cash crisis and brush with bankruptcy generated by the 501 and its spinoffs.

For a long time BMW kept the little bubblecar, conceived and designed by Iso of later sports car fame then re-engined by BMW, in the background, rather like an unloved uncle. But as time passed and the company became more self-confident as regards PR activities its sort of 'bubbled' to the surface.

While Isettas were four-wheeled with a very narrow rear track in most markets, a three-wheeled version existed for sales in Ireland and Great Britain where tax regulations and operator licensing loopholes offered some artificial benefits to cars missing a wheel. BMW assembled the three-wheelers for the British Isles in a former locomotive works, with the German plant dedicated to the more popular four-wheeled version.

Three wheelers had brief popularity in postwar Germany with entry-level buyers (though mainly on a cost basis rather than a series of government-supplied subsidies), but by the late 1950s~early 1960s when the economy had recovered sufficiently people got over the trikes. German buying public always had four-wheeled Isettas served up until production stopped in 1962.

There's a Trihawk thread elsewhere in Car Talk that mentions the 1980s conceived-in-Illinois-but-built-in-California two-seater using a very well done revival of the Morgan/BSA layout with the broadest portion of the triangular geometry at the front where the engine mass was. The Trihawk used a Citroen GSA air cooled flat four driving the front wheels while Morgans were rear-drive. Trihawk initially approached Subaru to buy engines and gearboxes, but they did not take the project seriously and refused.

After producing fewer than 100 cars between 1982 and 1985, Trihawk was purchased by Harley Davidson (who certainly did not do their homework before the purchase), moving the operations back to their HQs. When their own engine would not fit in the car without a complete redo of the front end - suspension included - the HD people approached my employer, Mazda R&D of North America, for help. But while they left the Trihawk with us for almost two months, that's for another time and another thread, not to mention way off the subject of a BMW Isetta.

bwob

See? This is the stuff I love hearing about! Dont ever change Bwob.

Back to regularly scheduled thread

puff4

10th July 2011, 21:37

Complete, vague guess, because this is guess the car, not guess the boat. Some sort of Century, designed by some bloke called Richard Arbib, whom I gather ran some sort of business with Harley Earl.

I'm wrong though, because boats aren't my thing.

Nope... not a Century.

puff4

10th July 2011, 21:38

With right-hand drive, it must be of English origin.;)

Nice. You're half way there.

97 M8

11th July 2011, 00:10

Nice. You're half way there.

1956 Healey Ski-Master

puff4

11th July 2011, 00:31

1956 Healey Ski-Master

Correct. You didn't offer the rest of the info, but it was designed by British automotive designer Donald Healey, of Nash Healey and Austin Healey fame.

Donald Healey formed a partnership with AquaCraft Limited of Bridport, Dorset, UK, to produce the "Ski-Master" (outboard) and later produced boats under his own firm, "Healey Marine, Ltd." where he made the "Sports Boat" (inboard), the latter being more popular, using the Austin-Healey 100/4 (Austin A40) motor and Lucas electrics (really). The Sports Boat evolved into later "Model 75" and "Model 707" versions.

The Healey Sports Boat:
http://peterhamilton.co.uk/Healey1.jpg

Note that classic Austin A40 motor:
http://peterhamilton.co.uk/Healey4.jpg

Dinky Toys even made a model of this particular boat:

http://images.denhams.com.s3.amazonaws.com/461/461lot287.jpg

Donald Healey actually made *two* "Sprite" vehicles... of course, the famous Austin Healey Sprite, but also the Healey Boats "Sprite"... see here for pictures of one:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ayersy/sets/72157624460759365/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ayersy/sets/72157624460759365/ )

Otto W

11th July 2011, 02:11

BMW Isetta.

Well actually I can't be certain what you saw was a BMW, but it IS an Isetta.

Isetta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isetta)

Now that I finally got home and was able to get a better look at the link I remember seeing this car before but the history make and model was eluding me. Thanks for you help and the link to it :thumbs:

For a long time a surprising number of BMW fanboys refused to believe the Isetta was a BMW...bwob

Thanks for the extra background Bob. :wave: you guys have some awesome car knowledge. I fear that the up and coming generations fall short with any practical knowledge that isn't tech related.

Roger

11th July 2011, 11:08

'lilRedRide

11th July 2011, 11:32

I fear that the up and coming generations fall short with any practical knowledge that isn't tech related.

If you had been following my thread about the kid with the Accord you'll find your fears might be more real than you think, the technical knowledge is going first.

puff4

11th July 2011, 12:09

Puff, in your post on the Healey boat, I think you meant Austin A90 not A40?

Yes, you're correct, I misspoke - the A90 Atlantic engine. It was technically a BMC "B" series motor, I believe.

bwob

11th July 2011, 12:33

The engine for the first big Healeys, too, till the C-series took over in the 100/6.

bwob

Otto W

11th July 2011, 16:05

If you had been following my thread about the kid with the Accord you'll find your fears might be more real than you think, the technical knowledge is going first.

I have followed that thread, and in part why I made my statement.

puff4

11th July 2011, 16:36

The engine for the first big Healeys, too, till the C-series took over in the 100/6.

bwob

Yes, that's right.

What amazed me about the early 100/4 Healeys was the gearbox... for the early cars they used the A90 Atlantic box, which of course had a 1st gear that was like a stump-puller... although this was helpful to get the fairly bulky A90 moving up a hill, it was entirely useless in the lightweight Healey... so to resolve the situation they just blocked off that gear with a pin, leaving the car with a 3-speed gearbox, in which you were effectively starting off in 2nd all the time. Talk about quick-and-dirty solutions! I discovered this whilst restoring one in the early 80's... all the gears for the original 1st gear were still in the gearbox, just never used. If you removed the pin I suppose you could have probably used the car to pull a freight train.

Other tidbit about the Healeys with this motor was that the fan was a cast alloy affair, and with the added RPM's that the Healey could generate - and the vibration the engine could produce in doing so - the harmonics were such that the fan's blades regularly cracked, often with somewhat disastrous results.

OHFOSHO

12th July 2011, 12:38

puff, aren't you up?

collective punishment:

http://blog.ooyyo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Nissan-Murano-CrossCabriolet.jpg

raff

12th July 2011, 13:44

raff

12th July 2011, 13:55

puff, aren't you up?

collective punishment:

I think 97 M8 is on the hot seat;)

'lilRedRide

12th July 2011, 14:28

97 M8 is up and that abomination is a Nissan Murano Converti-4 and is actually a prototype.

The final product offered for sale is two doors and called the Murano CrossCabriolet.

Ugh, it's name is almost as bulbous and unruly as the truck.

97 M8

12th July 2011, 17:35

I think 97 M8 is on the hot seat;)

Hot seat is correct, 36 hour power outage:mad:

Best pass this turn as the electron supply is still sketchy.:ohno:

raff

12th July 2011, 17:39

Looks like one of those new Nissans -- Mutation might be the name:eek:

Ugh, it's name is almost as bulbous and unruly as the truck.

MAybe I should have used the word "Mutant" instead.:rolleyes:

puff4

12th July 2011, 23:15

puff, aren't you up?

I am now. Shoot!

OHFOSHO

14th July 2011, 13:56

Tiger

14th July 2011, 16:11

'lilRedRide

14th July 2011, 16:14

OHFOSHO

14th July 2011, 16:39

'lilRedRide

15th July 2011, 16:47

OHFOSHO

15th July 2011, 16:59

If you hadn't noticed it is a microcar. Styling is inspired by another fullsize sports car of the era.

The A.S.A. badge is an abbreviation which includes the designation for type of company, similar to "Inc." or "LLC" in the US. This should lead you to the country of origin.

raff

15th July 2011, 22:03

KostasV2

16th July 2011, 05:12

OHFOSHO

16th July 2011, 12:17

It was rather hard to find: Autonacional Biscuter Pegasin from the '50s. http://www.microcarmuseum.com/tour/biscuter-pegasin.html

You got it :thumbs:

KostasV2

17th July 2011, 10:38

You got it :thumbs:

I have nothing ready. I'll pass my turn. :)

Dicer

17th July 2011, 10:58

Can anyone offer one up?

If so, try this from my murky past.

Dicer

17th July 2011, 13:31

bwob

17th July 2011, 14:49

It reminds me of one of the two Squires that were built with Vanden Plas bodies.

bwob

Dicer

17th July 2011, 18:01

Contemporary of the Squire but no connection as far as I know. The Squire is much more graceful, I think.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic/2102/Squire-1500-Vanden-Plas-Sports-Tourer_2.html

It is English, and very few were built.

raff

17th July 2011, 20:43

Dicer

17th July 2011, 21:12

Not a Riley. Much more obscure.

It was designed with competition in mind and has a connection to a much more famous English sporting make. It also had a fully independent suspension built from exotic light alloys.

Roger

17th July 2011, 23:21

Atalanta maybe? Though the radiator doesn't look quite right.

There were a few such British makes in the 30s that didn't really come to anything. Some were really quite advanced.

Dicer

18th July 2011, 00:53

Yes, well done!

It's a 1938 Atalanta Two-seat Sports, body by Abbott and the connection is to Frazer Nash, the Atalanta company being started by Alfred Gough and some other guys after Gough left Frazer Nash.

The photos are from a disused farm in Checkendon, Oxfordshire then frequented by shady motor trade types where I hung out myself once. I had a small hand in the original restoration by collecting the Bristol engine that the owner installed to replace the Gough.

After I lost touch with the car and the original restorer, it had a $250,000 restoration carried out in England in the 90s. It was sold by Christies in '97 and again by Gooding at Pebble Beach in 2007. This is the actual car, reg No. HMX957.

Roger, I guess by spending $250k, they could afford the proper grille, hood ornament and badge. :)

http://www.supercars.net/carpics/2821/1938_Atlanta_SportsAbbotsRoadster1.jpg

http://www.supercars.net/cars/2821.html

http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=1003560

OHFOSHO

18th July 2011, 10:18

Roger

18th July 2011, 11:20

Dicer, sounds like you and I may have much in common!

I love your first picture, by the way, with all those cars in the background, so if you don't mind my challenge is to the first to identify 7 makes of car from that picture, Atalanta excepted.

Dicer

18th July 2011, 11:48

Dicer, sounds like you and I may have much in common!

I love your first picture, by the way, with all those cars in the background, so if you don't mind my challenge is to the first to identify 7 makes of car from that picture, Atalanta excepted.

Haha! I guess I could do that too, especially since some of them were mine.

Actually, I knew several similar places in the Berkshire/Oxfordshire area back then, dis-used chicken farms and whatnot, where all sorts of seemingly disreputable and crooked people were involved in fixing up, selling and dealing in old or used cars.

And yet, if you dared go in and look around, you might find stuff like a GP Bugatti or a Bentley from the teens undergoing a world class restoration in amongst all the crooks and bondo merchants. Great times!

raff

18th July 2011, 13:35

Dicer, sounds like you and I may have much in common!

I love your first picture, by the way, with all those cars in the background, so if you don't mind my challenge is to the first to identify 7 makes of car from that picture, Atalanta excepted.

Having a soft spot for them -- I was drawn to the SAAB 96 partially hidden behind the Herald.;)

Dicer

18th July 2011, 19:00

I love your first picture, by the way, with all those cars in the background, so if you don't mind my challenge is to the first to identify 7 makes of car from that picture, Atalanta excepted.

Roger, by all means use the picture. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. Glad you liked it.

Here it is again:-

http://forum.miata.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=126430&d=1310914622

raff

18th July 2011, 20:44

I'll take a stab -- left to right:

Hillman (rear view)
Mini or Maxi in the background
Capri
Rover 3500 V8 (in front of the Capri)
Sunbeam Alpine
Saab 96
Triumph Herald

rloewy

18th July 2011, 21:17

I'll take a stab -- left to right:
Mini or Maxi in the background

Agree with all except for the one above - looks like an Austin 1100 to me.

Roger

18th July 2011, 23:32

Agree with all except for the one above - looks like an Austin 1100 to me.

You got it, though I do think that's a Mini you can see propped up through the glass and over the Super Minx.

raff

20th July 2011, 22:29

raff

21st July 2011, 20:58

Hint time??

It's creator/stylist was a clothing designer.

Otto W

21st July 2011, 21:06

OHFOSHO

21st July 2011, 21:18

raff

21st July 2011, 21:45

Bobby Darrin's "Dream Car". Designed by Andy DiDia, a clothing designer in Detroit. Originally, the car had 30 coats of paint, mixed with a diamond dust from Sweden. Now on display at the National Museum of Transport in St. Louis

Good work:thumbs:

OHFOSHO

21st July 2011, 22:58

aussieeemex

21st July 2011, 23:17

OHFOSHO

21st July 2011, 23:21

Angry car is angry?
Indian Standard Gazel Mk1

:toast: You got it.

bwob

21st July 2011, 23:30

Can you tell it started as a Triumph Herald and Vitesse?

bwob

'lilRedRide

21st July 2011, 23:35

aussieeemex

21st July 2011, 23:48

Can you tell it started as a Triumph Herald and Vitesse?

bwob

Theres so many cues of both....

aussieeemex

22nd July 2011, 00:43